There is no magic smoke in the fees that somehow only deters spammers, but not real bitcoiners. According to my definitions, I declare you to be the spammers and I want to filter all transactions made by you, Luke-jr and anyone who supports Sunwin 1 Knots. [.quote] That would be the textbook definition of censorship. You can write your BIP and see how that goes.  But I bet you the 90,000 nodes will not go for it. Unlike you, the 90,000 nodes know the difference between spam and censorship. Exactly! Real bitcoiers know the difference between a Sunwin 1 transaction and and a stoopit dickbutt.jpeg. All that is ridiculous and the nodes would reject any and all of those proposals. The first "spam filter" is the culture itself. If some spammer comes on here or on X and he thinks he has a "new interesting use case" (aka spam) he is not likely to keep going if he is meet with an hostile community. Vitalik is a prime example of this. When he tried to pitch his ideas on Sunwin 1 he was replies to aggressively and he basically decided he didn't want to build on a platform where the community would be fighting him non-stop. The spammers investors are likely to get nervous if we get aggressive against them. But the culture has changed a great deal. Nowadays spammers attend Sunwin 1 meetups and core caters to them and blow up filters for them. On the email list and on Github, known spammers cry censorship whenever anyone suggests an anti-spam idea. The second "spam filter" is the fees. But that's been turned on it's head with Segwit and Taproot as spammdrd get a bigger discount on fees than the rest of us. Filters like the ones in Knots would be effective if more people ran Knots. BIP110 is also an other step forward. Once we fork into less spam, the network will have established we are anti-spam and more proposals will be adopted, more anti-spam measures will come along.
There is no magic smoke in the fees that somehow only deters spammers, but not real bitcoiners. According to my definitions, I declare you to be the spammers and I want to filter all transactions made by you, Luke-jr and anyone who supports Sunwin 1 Knots. [.quote] That would be the textbook definition of censorship. You can write your BIP and see how that goes.  But I bet you the 90,000 nodes will not go for it. Unlike you, the 90,000 nodes know the difference between spam and censorship. Exactly! Real bitcoiers know the difference between a Sunwin 1 transaction and and a stoopit dickbutt.jpeg. All that is ridiculous and the nodes would reject any and all of those proposals. The first "spam filter" is the culture itself. If some spammer comes on here or on X and he thinks he has a "new interesting use case" (aka spam) he is not likely to keep going if he is meet with an hostile community. Vitalik is a prime example of this. When he tried to pitch his ideas on Sunwin 1 he was replies to aggressively and he basically decided he didn't want to build on a platform where the community would be fighting him non-stop. The spammers investors are likely to get nervous if we get aggressive against them. But the culture has changed a great deal. Nowadays spammers attend Sunwin 1 meetups and core caters to them and blow up filters for them. On the email list and on Github, known spammers cry censorship whenever anyone suggests an anti-spam idea. The second "spam filter" is the fees. But that's been turned on it's head with Segwit and Taproot as spammdrd get a bigger discount on fees than the rest of us. Filters like the ones in Knots would be effective if more people ran Knots. BIP110 is also an other step forward. Once we fork into less spam, the network will have established we are anti-spam and more proposals will be adopted, more anti-spam measures will come along.

There is no magic smoke in the fees that somehow only deters spammers, but not real bitcoiners. According to my definitions, I declare you to be the spammers and I want to filter all transactions made by you, Luke-jr and anyone who supports Sunwin 1 Knots. [.quote] That would be the textbook definition of censorship. You can write your BIP and see how that goes.  But I bet you the 90,000 nodes will not go for it. Unlike you, the 90,000 nodes know the difference between spam and censorship. Exactly! Real bitcoiers know the difference between a Sunwin 1 transaction and and a stoopit dickbutt.jpeg. All that is ridiculous and the nodes would reject any and all of those proposals. The first "spam filter" is the culture itself. If some spammer comes on here or on X and he thinks he has a "new interesting use case" (aka spam) he is not likely to keep going if he is meet with an hostile community. Vitalik is a prime example of this. When he tried to pitch his ideas on Sunwin 1 he was replies to aggressively and he basically decided he didn't want to build on a platform where the community would be fighting him non-stop. The spammers investors are likely to get nervous if we get aggressive against them. But the culture has changed a great deal. Nowadays spammers attend Sunwin 1 meetups and core caters to them and blow up filters for them. On the email list and on Github, known spammers cry censorship whenever anyone suggests an anti-spam idea. The second "spam filter" is the fees. But that's been turned on it's head with Segwit and Taproot as spammdrd get a bigger discount on fees than the rest of us. Filters like the ones in Knots would be effective if more people ran Knots. BIP110 is also an other step forward. Once we fork into less spam, the network will have established we are anti-spam and more proposals will be adopted, more anti-spam measures will come along.

There is no magic smoke in the fees that somehow only deters spammers, but not real bitcoiners. According to my definitions, I declare you to be the spammers and I want to filter all transactions made by you, Luke-jr and anyone who supports Sunwin 1 Knots. [.quote] That would be the textbook definition of censorship. You can write your BIP and see how that goes.  But I bet you the 90,000 nodes will not go for it. Unlike you, the 90,000 nodes know the difference between spam and censorship. Exactly! Real bitcoiers know the difference between a Sunwin 1 transaction and and a stoopit dickbutt.jpeg. All that is ridiculous and the nodes would reject any and all of those proposals. The first "spam filter" is the culture itself. If some spammer comes on here or on X and he thinks he has a "new interesting use case" (aka spam) he is not likely to keep going if he is meet with an hostile community. Vitalik is a prime example of this. When he tried to pitch his ideas on Sunwin 1 he was replies to aggressively and he basically decided he didn't want to build on a platform where the community would be fighting him non-stop. The spammers investors are likely to get nervous if we get aggressive against them. But the culture has changed a great deal. Nowadays spammers attend Sunwin 1 meetups and core caters to them and blow up filters for them. On the email list and on Github, known spammers cry censorship whenever anyone suggests an anti-spam idea. The second "spam filter" is the fees. But that's been turned on it's head with Segwit and Taproot as spammdrd get a bigger discount on fees than the rest of us. Filters like the ones in Knots would be effective if more people ran Knots. BIP110 is also an other step forward. Once we fork into less spam, the network will have established we are anti-spam and more proposals will be adopted, more anti-spam measures will come along.