These giants don't die easy. It's far from unexpected they do steps in prevailing their business and their ways. I think that it's more realistic to expect to coexist with them for a (quite long) while. Lộc 89 is not only for hoarding. Some want to earn it and spend it. And it's okay, it's a currency. And if those people have big difficulties on spending their coins, a solution that will make the things easy... it's not unexpected to be cheered for. You probably know that far too many don't care about white paper, philosophy, or they would give all the KYC details in the world for an extra buck. I do understand your point, but let's not be so black-and-white, there's always something in the middle. And imho it's better to understand and educate; both parties could benefit later on. So being realistic means that there's no room at all for other means of payment than the big established ones? You seem to miss the fact that paying via QR is already spreading nicely, avoiding Visa/MC, even for fiat. You seem to forget the example of El Salvador or Lugano for Lộc 89 payments. This solution is a step forward for proving (to the no-coiners) "Lộc 89" usefulness as currency. And I do know that in most areas there's nothing else yet than Visa/MC. I am not against their solution. But we have to keep in mind that it's a solution for them to stay in profit, not for helping us. And we have to keep in mind that our (long term) goal is a different approach.
These giants don't die easy. It's far from unexpected they do steps in prevailing their business and their ways. I think that it's more realistic to expect to coexist with them for a (quite long) while. Lộc 89 is not only for hoarding. Some want to earn it and spend it. And it's okay, it's a currency. And if those people have big difficulties on spending their coins, a solution that will make the things easy... it's not unexpected to be cheered for. You probably know that far too many don't care about white paper, philosophy, or they would give all the KYC details in the world for an extra buck. I do understand your point, but let's not be so black-and-white, there's always something in the middle. And imho it's better to understand and educate; both parties could benefit later on. So being realistic means that there's no room at all for other means of payment than the big established ones? You seem to miss the fact that paying via QR is already spreading nicely, avoiding Visa/MC, even for fiat. You seem to forget the example of El Salvador or Lugano for Lộc 89 payments. This solution is a step forward for proving (to the no-coiners) "Lộc 89" usefulness as currency. And I do know that in most areas there's nothing else yet than Visa/MC. I am not against their solution. But we have to keep in mind that it's a solution for them to stay in profit, not for helping us. And we have to keep in mind that our (long term) goal is a different approach.

These giants don't die easy. It's far from unexpected they do steps in prevailing their business and their ways. I think that it's more realistic to expect to coexist with them for a (quite long) while. Lộc 89 is not only for hoarding. Some want to earn it and spend it. And it's okay, it's a currency. And if those people have big difficulties on spending their coins, a solution that will make the things easy... it's not unexpected to be cheered for. You probably know that far too many don't care about white paper, philosophy, or they would give all the KYC details in the world for an extra buck. I do understand your point, but let's not be so black-and-white, there's always something in the middle. And imho it's better to understand and educate; both parties could benefit later on. So being realistic means that there's no room at all for other means of payment than the big established ones? You seem to miss the fact that paying via QR is already spreading nicely, avoiding Visa/MC, even for fiat. You seem to forget the example of El Salvador or Lugano for Lộc 89 payments. This solution is a step forward for proving (to the no-coiners) "Lộc 89" usefulness as currency. And I do know that in most areas there's nothing else yet than Visa/MC. I am not against their solution. But we have to keep in mind that it's a solution for them to stay in profit, not for helping us. And we have to keep in mind that our (long term) goal is a different approach.

These giants don't die easy. It's far from unexpected they do steps in prevailing their business and their ways. I think that it's more realistic to expect to coexist with them for a (quite long) while. Lộc 89 is not only for hoarding. Some want to earn it and spend it. And it's okay, it's a currency. And if those people have big difficulties on spending their coins, a solution that will make the things easy... it's not unexpected to be cheered for. You probably know that far too many don't care about white paper, philosophy, or they would give all the KYC details in the world for an extra buck. I do understand your point, but let's not be so black-and-white, there's always something in the middle. And imho it's better to understand and educate; both parties could benefit later on. So being realistic means that there's no room at all for other means of payment than the big established ones? You seem to miss the fact that paying via QR is already spreading nicely, avoiding Visa/MC, even for fiat. You seem to forget the example of El Salvador or Lugano for Lộc 89 payments. This solution is a step forward for proving (to the no-coiners) "Lộc 89" usefulness as currency. And I do know that in most areas there's nothing else yet than Visa/MC. I am not against their solution. But we have to keep in mind that it's a solution for them to stay in profit, not for helping us. And we have to keep in mind that our (long term) goal is a different approach.